Oct-November Lost wax casting metal or glass. Kiln-forming glass. Ring band & Flame-working classes & more!

Glass Kiln forming workshop  Nov 3, 4 & 5, 11th $300pp+(optional) lab fee  This intensive class introduces fundamental concepts of creating glass objects in the kiln either through lost wax casting, Pate de Verre or a combination of the two. 1st Friday evening overview demonstrates the Vitrigraph kiln/flameworking cane/murrine.  Students will learn kiln forming towards making window pieces, bowls/plates, sculptural, wearable items and more! Students work with Bullseye glass, frit/powder, rod and stringer OR have the option (casting only) with gorgeous Gaffer crystal.    No experience with glass is required for this course.
Friday evening 6:30-9:30pm: Introduction/demonstration of vitrigraph kiln and flame working cane/murrini for use in kiln forming glass.
Saturday afternoon (noon to 6pm): Students have the opportunity of hand pulling cane/murrini at the torch. Students build models from clay, wax patterns, moulds using alginate and more, set-up the kiln for kiln forming/casting/pate de verre.
Sunday afternoon  (noon-5pm): Students learn how to work with refractory materials to hand-build moulds, mother moulds, weigh for glass. Models are steamed out of moulds and set-up in the kiln(s).
Saturday afternoon (noon to 5pm): Students return to de-invest their models, cold work their glass by hand.
Lab fee (optional): $100 covers Gaffer crystal colours*, metals, & expendables
Students are emailed concerning glass colour choice, otherwise everyone works with clear glass.

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flame working
Flame-working

Flame ON!Next workshop starts Tuesday evenings Nov  14th 6:30-9:30pm  $130pp includes materials-

 Class runs 3 evenings.
This workshop introduces students to the basics of mandrel-wound (soft) glass beadmaking by the process of flameworking (lampworking) shaping glass at a bench-mounted, surface-mix oxygen/propane torch. Safety is discussed, tools, terminology of glass, and process. Each student will have access to a torch and will melt and form glass using a variety of hand tools.This is the chance to experience working molten glass! While not a “product-oriented” workshop, there will be plenty of time for students to make a small, but satisfying batch of colourful beads, which are annealed overnight after each workshop, and cleaned before the start of the next class.  Class fee includes all materials
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 Learn how to form, fabricate, solder, set-stones and more in our 4 wk Metal + Glass course. Metal + Glass courses are offered afternoons and evenings Monday & Wednesday. Ring band & Wedding band workshops, Lost wax casting silver, alloys, etc. Please see below for our current schedule.

METAL + GLASS 4wk:  Monday & Wednesday evenings – Learn basic Goldsmithing.  6:30-9:30pm Next course starts-up Monday, Oct 2nd or Monday, November 6th $275pp (deposit of $137.50 to reserve seat)

 

 

evening #1: First evening: working with copper: safety, drilling, sawing. Adding textures.

evening #2: Making a band ring out of silver (stamp, hammer finish, roller print, etc.)

evening #3: Working with wax create pieces w/the lost wax technique- to be cast in Sterling silver or bronze/brass.

evening #4: Finishing wax projects, Cuttlefish casting (lo-tech) in house.

evening #5: Kilnworked glass. Fuse several glass pieces (buckle, pendant, cabochon for setting later!).

evening #6: Enameling copper projects, forming, how to make your own basic findings.

evening #7: Bezel settings cabochon stones or fossils or crystals, or an enamelled or Fused glass piece.

evening #8: Finish up projects

No experience necessary!

Copper, wax, glass, and some sterling silver are supplied*.  A list of local suppliers is included.   Questions concerning this course? Please see our FAQ’s

What is included: 

Approx 3″ x 3″ piece of 16 to 18 gauge copper & *16 ga Sterling silver sheet & wire/15 gr casting grain

Sterling silver for 1 ring band, approx 60mm in length and 1.5mm thick (6mm wide)

Wax

Solder

1 dozen 3/0 saw blades, *1 gross selection of Jeweller’s saw blades

Glass powders/Frit & sheet for Fusing *Approximately 1kg of Lead crystal towards a lost wax casting.

Bezel wire for 1 setting

Use of tools & equipment *Bench pin and saw frame to take home

Students are encouraged to supply their own cabochon cut stones, crystals, rocks, etc. However there is a small selection of stones for students to choose from.


Monday October 2nd or Nov 6th  6:30-9:30pm (deposit of $137.50 to reserve seat) Please leave a Paypal note concerning the start date you prefer, or email the studio.

 

 


Optional Lab Fee (includes items above with *): $125

 

 



screen-shot-2017-02-09-at-12-16-36-pmLost wax casting course- sculpt wax, make moulds, cast your objects in Sterling silver* 4 weeks Tuesday evenings starting October 10th 6:30-9:30pm $350pp No experience necessary! 6 student max. Deposit of $175 to reserve seat deposit_button

In this course students carve/sculpt jeweller’s wax making a ring or a pendant that will be cast in Sterling silver and/or bronze. Burn out casting will be discussed, and low-tech casting methods will be discussed and demonstrated. Students will learn how to make moulds for wax injection/production work. Casting stones in place, such as: diamonds, sapphires, meteorites and certain lab grown stones will be discussed/demonstrated. The first evening starts with an introduction to various jeweller’s wax, carving tools, subtractive and additive sculpting. Students then discuss their design ideas and begin to carve/sculpt their pieces to be cast. The second evening discusses how to cast organic materials; bone, shell, or wood. Each evening covers a different part of the Lost Wax process into finishing work to a high polish or brushed finish as well as working with patinas.

14k red gold ring
14k red gold ring

What’s included:

Various wax for carving and sculpting

spiral saw blades

Nitrile gloves

Particulate masks

2 ounces of Sterling silver

*students wishing to cast in gold will be given supplier information.

Casting organic materials will be discussed. Some items may be ‘burnt out’ within a casting flask, while others require moulds to be made. Casting various stones in place is discussed and some stones will be available for students to experiment with.

 

Sterling silver lost wax cast crab claws
Sterling silver lost wax cast crab claws

Ring band workshops

Sterling silver Ring band workshops taking place Thursday evening, October 19th $88pp

Learn how to properly measure your finger(s), layout your pattern and hand cut, form, forge a sterling silver ring band! Demonstrations on adding textures via hammers, stamping tools, and Rolling Mill add inspiration. Finishing techniques; brush, satin, rustic and high mirror polish and leave the workshop with a beautiful sterling silver ring or set of 3 thin stacking rings*!

Participants learn how to hand saw, add texture, form, solder and finish their rings in this super fun workshop! All materials included. Sterling silver for 1 wide band ring or sterling silver for 3 stacking rings, or a combination of sterling copper and bronze for stacking rings.

Thursday evening Oct 19 6:30-9:30pm 

 


Please read our FAQs & policies 

 

Skeleton Articulation workshops with Wilder Duncan

Bat Skeleton Articulation workshops with Wilder Duncan

Workshops are taking place at the T.E.S.T gallery space 906 Queen st West • Toronto 

Reserve your seats with a deposit of $135 (class fee $270)  

In this class, students will learn how to create an osteological preparation of a bat in the fashion of 19th century zoological displays. A cleaned bat skeleton (Pipistrellus abramus), a glass dome, branches, glue, tools, and all necessary materials will be provided for each student, but one should feel welcome to bring small feathers, stones, dried flowers, dead insects, natural elements, or any other materials s/he might wish to include in his/her composition. Students will leave the class with a visually striking, fully articulated, “lifelike” bat skeleton posed in a 10″ tall glass dome. The class will focus on teaching ancient methods of specimen preparation that link science with art: students will create compositions involving natural elements and, according to their taste, will compose a traditional Victorian environment or a modern display.

Thursday evening, Oct 12th start time 6:30pm

 


Saturday Afternoon, Oct 14th start time 12pm 

 


Sunday Afternoon, Oct 15th start time 12pm (almost full)



 

Sterling silver Ring band workshop Saturday, Sept 9th

Sterling silver Ring band workshop taking place Saturday, Sept 9th $88pp  (2 seats remain!)

Learn how to properly measure your finger(s), layout your pattern and hand cut, form, forge a sterling silver ring band! Demonstrations on adding textures via hammers, stamping tools, and Rolling Mill add inspiration. Finishing techniques; brush, satin, rustic and high mirror polish and leave the workshop with a beautiful sterling silver ring or set of 3 thin stacking rings*!

Participants learn how to hand saw, add texture, form, solder and finish their rings in this super fun workshop! All materials included. Sterling silver for 1 wide band ring or sterling silver for 3 stacking rings, or a combination of sterling copper and bronze for stacking rings.

 

Saturday Afternoon September 9th 12:15pm-3pm 

Lost Wax Casting in Metal- Toronto workshops

Lost wax casting course- sculpt wax, make moulds, cast your objects in Sterling silver* 4 weeks Tuesday & Thursday evenings starting August 22nd  6:30-9:30pm $550pp No experience necessary! 6 student max. Deposit of $275 to reserve seat **payment plans are available (contact the studio for details)

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In this course students carve/sculpt jeweller’s wax making a ring or a pendant that will be cast in Sterling silver. Burn out casting will be discussed, and low-tech casting methods will be discussed and demonstrated.

Students will learn how to make moulds for wax injection/production work. Casting stones in place, such as: diamonds, sapphires, meteorites and certain lab grown stones will be discussed/demonstrated.

The first evening starts with an introduction to various jeweller’s wax, carving tools, subtractive and additive sculpting. Students then discuss their design ideas and begin to carve/sculpt their pieces to be cast.

The second evening we will discuss how to cast organic materials; bone, shell, or wood. Some items may be ‘burnt out’ within a casting flask, while others require moulds to be made. Casting various stones in place is discussed and some stones will be available for students to experiment with.

Each evening covers a different part of the Lost Wax process into finishing work to a high polish or brushed finish as well as working with patinas.

14k red gold ring
14k red gold ring

What’s included:

Various wax for carving and sculpting

Silicone kits for mould making

spiral saw blades

Nitrile gloves

Particulate masks

2 ounces of Sterling silver

*students wishing to cast in gold will be given supplier information. Copper may be added to sterling silver and/or fine silver to create Shibuichi. Casting organic materials will be discussed. Some items may be ‘burnt out’ within a casting flask, while other organic materials require moulds to be made. Casting various stones in place is discussed and some stones will be available for students to experiment with.

Student casting: Sapphire beads were cast in place.

 

Sterling silver lost wax cast crab claws
Sterling silver lost wax cast crab claws

Lost wax casting course- sculpt wax, make moulds, cast your objects in Sterling silver* 4 weeks Tuesday & Thursday evenings starting August 22nd  6:30-9:30pm $550pp No experience necessary! 6 student max. Deposit of $275 to reserve seat deposit_button

In this course students carve/sculpt jeweller’s wax making a ring or a pendant that will be cast in Sterling silver using the Vacuum casting process. Burn out casting will be discussed, and low-tech casting methods will be discussed and demonstrated.

Students will learn how to make moulds for wax injection/production work. Casting stones in place, such as: diamonds, sapphires, meteorites and certain lab grown stones will be discussed/demonstrated.

The first evening starts with an introduction to various jeweller’s wax, carving tools, subtractive and additive sculpting. Students then discuss their design ideas and begin to carve/sculpt their pieces to be cast.

The second evening discusses how to cast organic materials; bone, shell, or wood

Each evening covers a different part of the Lost Wax process into finishing work to a high polish or brushed finish as well as working with patinas.

14k red gold ring
14k red gold ring

What’s included:

Various wax for carving and sculpting

Silicone kits for mould making

spiral saw blades

Nitrile gloves

Particulate masks

2 ounces of Sterling silver

*students wishing to cast in gold will be given supplier information.

Casting organic materials will be discussed. Some items may be ‘burnt out’ within a casting flask, while others require moulds to be made. Casting various stones in place is discussed and some stones will be available for students to experiment with.

 

Sterling silver lost wax cast crab claws
Sterling silver lost wax cast crab claws

Glass Fusing Intensive workshop

Glass Fusing workshop  Sept 1, 2 & 3, 9 & 10th $275pp+(optional) lab fee  This intensive class introduces fundamental concepts of creating glass objects in the kiln. 1st Friday evening overview demonstrates the Vitrigraph kiln/flameworking cane/murrine.  Students will learn kiln forming/carving towards making window pieces, bowls/plates, sculptural, wearable items and more! Students work with Bullseye glass sheet, frit/powder, rod and stringer.    No experience with glass is required for this course.
Friday evening 6:30-9:30pm: Introduction/demonstration of vitrigraph kiln and flame working cane/murrini for use in kiln forming glass.
Saturday afternoon (noon to 6pm): Students have the opportunity of hand pulling cane/murrini at the torch. Students layout their glass patterns, learn how to kiln carve glass, set-up the kiln for kiln forming/fusing.
Friday evening  (6:30 start): Students learn how to use a diamond tile saw, diamond tools for cleaning up work from previous weekend, items are fired over night.
Saturday afternoon  (noon-5pm): Students layout their remaining glass designs and patterns for kiln carving/forming.
Sunday afternoon  (noon-5pm): Students cold work glass items, finish up their projects. Any remaining glass can be formed and picked up during the following week.
Lab fee (optional): $100 covers coloured glass sheet*, metals, & expendables
Students are emailed concerning sheet glass colour choice, everyone receives a 10″x10″ sheet of clear Tekta

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Wedding rings, commitment rings, friendships rings, engagement rings! Toronto ring band workshops!

Sterling silver. Ring Band workshop
Sterling silver. Ring Band workshop

Wedding rings, commitment rings, friendships rings, engagement ring! Toronto ring band workshops!

Sterling silver Ring band workshops taking place Wednesday evening, Aug 2nd, Thursday evening, Aug 10th or Tuesday August 22nd. Register here>

I’ve offered wedding band and ring band workshops in Toronto since 2003. Long before other, similar studios opened and followed suit. I have been a professional working metalsmith/artist since 1986.

San Francisco, Santa Fe/Taos, New Mexico, Texas, Toronto and occasionally Iceland, I have lived, worked and taught these particular workshops.

My ring band (Sterling) workshops are 3 hours long and include Sterling silver for one ring band (rectangular wire 6mm wide x 2mm thick). $88pp 

Wedding band workshops vary upon approach, materials used, etc. Generally the wedding band workshops are private bookings, however if you are interested in Sterling silver ring bands you are more than welcome to join any Ring Band workshop!

There are essentially 4 options:

  1. Sterling ring band workshop $88pp,
  2. Wedding band workshop (wax) $300pc+metal,
  3. Wedding band workshop (fabricate-gold) $350pc+BYOM,
  4. Wedding band workshop wax & DIY cast in the studio! $600pc+metal.
If you and your fiance are looking to create non-traditional rings, I recommend the lost wax process for couples with no experience.
Lost wax involves: carving (for hard wax), sculpting, and/or filing wax ring blanks (or form ring blanks from soft wax using your fingers). These models are then cast in either Gold, Sterling or Bronze.
Before they are cast we weigh the wax and determine cost, if the waxes need to be adjusted to fit budget, etc., we adjust the rings at this wax stage.
Wax is also more forgiving and if  you make a mistake, etc., you can easily start over or fix the model.
Working straight from gold stock is not the same, can be considerably more expensive, and there isn’t a lot of room for error, plus solder needs to be purchased as well, see www.imperialproducts.com for quotes. They are located in Markham, ON.
White gold comes in 10k, 14k, 18k, 19k the higher the karat the more gold, lower means more alloy to make it appear ‘white’, same applies with red gold, or green gold.
Wedding set. 18k white gold with blue and white diamonds.
Wedding set. 18k white gold with blue and white diamonds.

Wedding band [wax & DIY cast] workshops runs three sessions:

1st session involves working with your designs and creating them out of wax.
I demonstrate different approaches to working with wax, various jeweller’s wax, tools and equipment used, carving using hand tools, and rotary tools, etc. Rings are created.
2nd session – If you opt to cast the rings yourself/in house*. We go through the process of Spruing your wax ring models and investing them. The mould is then cured and ….
3rd session: Metal has been purchased and your rings are invested and ready to cast! We go through the entire process of centrifugal casting on this day then, go over various finishing techniques, filing, sanding, polishing.
The Wedding band (wax) workshop runs= $300 per couple + metal for approx 9hrs does not include stone setting** Deposit of half to book time.
Cast at studio $600pc
14k red gold ring
metal costs are based upon the spot price of the day- I do not charge any extra for gold unless shipping is involved. Basically, you are paying less than wholesale for your custom rings.
Gold rings in past wax carving workshops have run $250 to $650 per ring for 14k. $400 to $850 per ring for 18k. Lost wax cast Sterling silver rings are considerably less, $30 to $110 depending on size.
alyzzaHow much metal would you need (gram wise) is completely dependant on size of ring & your Sprue. A rough idea: approximate gram weight for an 8.5 to size 9 ring would weigh 9 to 10 grams and cost (if purchased through a metal supplier) around $460 to $500 (for 18k rectangular wire same dimensions as Sterling mentioned above) plus solder (18k medium grade) which could run $85 to $100+ for a coupon.
 That said, adding a small amount of high karat yellow gold to sterling is also an option (fused and/or soldered to the Sterling). The beauty of adding high karat gold to Sterling is the bi-metal look plus you could add a patina using Liver of Sulfur that would make the Sterling appear black and the gold pop. Here is a link to my friend’s website (artist/metalsmith Vina Rust) demonstrating LOS on sterling w/gold.
Another option, though completely different would be to work with iron nails and add gold to that.
Here is a link to images (goldsmith Chris Nelson) to give you an idea of what iron/gold look like together –Pinterest Rings
Wedding band workshop-fabricate (melt your own gold (generally equalling more than 10 grams worth), work w/alternative materials, etc) $350per couple (pc)+ BYOM 6hrs. The difference between this workshop and the wax? This workshop YOU bring in your metal strip or enough high karat yellow gold to melt down and roll out into strips that are then cut, filed, sanded, formed, soldered, etc. Similar to our Sterling ring band workshops in method, yet you supply the raw materials.
Group of Sterling silver rings bands.
Group of Sterling silver rings bands.

Generally available- Tuesday, Thursday and Friday evenings and Saturday or Sunday afternoons. Please email me to discuss your ring ideas!

*There is also the option of having your rings cast in Platinum – this takes place off site at a commercial casting company downtown GTA

** Cast in place! For entirely one-of-a-kind rings consider casting raw diamonds into the ring, or meteorites/tektites, sapphires,  iron. Another idea: cast two different metals!

 

Marcylin & Zoe's commitment rings. Sterling silver
Marcylin & Zoe’s commitment rings. Sterling silver
Birthday party ring band workshop!
Birthday party ring band workshop!

The Devil’s Workshop has provided popular jewellery making workshops including The Weddings, bes

Everyone is welcome!

poke wedding bands and special commissions of all types as well as repairs.

Jackalope Skeleton Articulation Workshops

Jackalope Skeleton Articulation Workshop!  Saturday, October 7th, 12pm start. $325pp  Reserve your seat with $162.50  

In this class, students will learn how to create an osteological
preparation of a cryptozoological specimen in the fashion of 19th century displays.
A cleaned jackrabbit skeleton, branches, glue, tools, and all necessary materials will be provided for each student, but one should feel welcome to bring small feathers, stones, dried flowers, tiny crowns, medieval weaponry or any other materials s/he might wish to include in his/her composition. Students will leave the class with a visually striking, fully articulated, “lifelike” Jackalope skeleton posed on a wooden trophy mount.
The class will focus on teaching ancient methods of specimen preparation that link science with art: students will create compositions involving natural elements and, according to their taste, will compose a traditional Victorian environment or a modern display.   

Metal + Glass 25% off regular course fee – register today Toronto

 Learn how to form, fabricate, solder, set-stones and more in our 4 wk Metal + Glass course. Metal + Glass courses are offered afternoons and evenings Monday & Wednesday.


METAL + GLASS 4wk:  Monday & Wednesday evenings – Learn basic Goldsmithing.  6:30-9:30pm Next course starts-up Monday July 31st RECEIVE 25% off $275 regular price. 

evening #1: First evening: working with copper: safety, drilling, sawing. Adding textures.

evening #2: Making a band ring out of silver (stamp, hammer finish, roller print, etc.)

evening #3: Working with wax create pieces w/the lost wax technique- to be cast in Sterling silver or bronze/brass.

evening #4: Finishing wax projects, Cuttlefish casting (lo-tech) in house.

evening #5: Kilnworked glass. Fuse several glass pieces (buckle, pendant, cabochon for setting later!).

evening #6: Enameling copper projects, forming, how to make your own basic findings.

evening #7: Bezel settings cabochon stones or fossils or crystals, or an enamelled or Fused glass piece.

evening #8: Finish up projects

No experience necessary!

Copper, wax, glass, and some sterling silver are supplied*.  A list of local suppliers is included.   Questions concerning this course? Please see our FAQ’s

What is included: 

Approx 3″ x 3″ piece of 16 to 18 gauge copper & *16 ga Sterling silver sheet & wire/15 gr casting grain

Sterling silver for 1 ring band, approx 60mm in length and 1.5mm thick (6mm wide)

Wax

Solder

1 dozen 3/0 saw blades, *1 gross selection of Jeweller’s saw blades

Glass powders/Frit & sheet for Fusing *Approximately 1kg of Lead crystal towards a lost wax casting.

Bezel wire for 1 setting

Use of tools & equipment *Bench pin and saw frame to take home

Students are encouraged to supply their own cabochon cut stones, crystals, rocks, etc. However there is a small selection of stones for students to choose from.


July 31st ($275pp) 6:30pm-9:30pm 4 seats remain July 25th 11am

July 31st start-up 25% discount at checkout

 

 


Optional Lab Fee (includes items above with *): $125

 

 

Hand form metal + glass workshops in Toronto

Our Metal + Glass course teaches you how to hand fabricate (pierce, saw, file, solder, finish) your own designs in copper, bronze/brass and sterling silver. Learn how to bezel set cabochon stones, basic prong settings, work with vitreous enamel, carve wax towards lost wax casting, construct a ring band out of sterling silver, make your own findings and more! 

METAL + GLASS 4wk: Next course starts up Monday July 31st – runs Monday & Wednesday- Learn basic Goldsmithing. Choose afternoon or evening start time:  12pm to 3pm or 6:30-9:30pm (other date options listed below)

evening #1: First evening: working with copper: safety, drilling, sawing. Adding textures.

evening #2: Construct a ring out of silver (stamp, hammer finish, roller print, etc.)

evening #3: Working with wax create pieces w/the lost wax technique- to be cast in Sterling silver or bronze/brass.

evening #4: Finishing wax projects, Cuttlefish casting (lo-tech) in house.

evening #5: Kilnworked glass. Fuse several glass pieces (buckle, pendant, cabochon for setting later!).

evening #6: Enameling copper projects, forming, how to make your own basic findings.

evening #7: Bezel settings cabochon stones or fossils or crystals, or an enamelled or Fused glass piece.

evening #8: Finish up projects

No experience necessary!

Copper, wax, glass, and some sterling silver are supplied*.  A list of local suppliers is included.   Questions concerning this course? Please see our FAQ’s

What is included: 

Approx 3″ x 3″ piece of 16 to 18 gauge copper & *16 ga Sterling silver sheet & wire/15 gr casting grain

Sterling silver for 1 ring band, approx 60mm in length and 1.5mm thick (6mm wide)

Wax

Solder

1 dozen 3/0 saw blades, *1 gross selection of Jeweller’s saw blades

Glass powders/Frit & sheet for Fusing *Approximately 1kg of Lead crystal towards a lost wax casting.

Bezel wire for 1 setting

Use of tools & equipment *Bench pin and saw frame to take home

Students are encouraged to supply their own cabochon cut stones, crystals, rocks, etc. However there is a small selection of stones for students to choose from.


Start-up July 31st ($275pp) afternoons 12pm-3pm or evenings 6:30pm-9:30pm * please leave the date you wish to start on along with afternoon/evening choice in a note when making your deposit. 

 

 

August 21st Start-up

MAKERS FAIRE: Pâte de verre workshops

MAKERS FAIRE: Pâte de verre workshops – noon to 3:30, Saturday or Sunday, July 15, 16 or 23rd -12 student max.  $85pp 

Participants learn how to fill a pre-made mould of a small bowl with glass paint, glass powder and fine glass -frit-, the moulds are then fired and participants return to the studio to divest and finish their bowls. 
Materials included, no experience necessary!  
 

Students learn the basics of pâte de verre from start to finish while making a thin-walled, kiln formed bowl. Students have access to a broad palette of coloured frit (crushed glass) and samples to help predict and understand fired qualities. Demonstrations include various techniques of working with glass powders against the mold, working with color reactions, as well as how to back-fill a packed mold to support the walls of the piece during firing. 

July workshops: 15th, 16th or 23rd  

Register above and add the date you would like to attend in a Paypal note or I will email you to confirm. Thanks! 🙂